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News Discussion: 3 days, 21 hours ago · ViewFinancial Treachery & Harsh Consequences
By: Jim Willie CB, GoldenJackass
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Matt Prather posted an update: 4 days, 16 hours ago · View
salem [salaam, other]
Thank you for attending the Inter-Faith Prophet Muhammad Day Conference.
And on behalf of Muslims For Peace I welcome you.
I’m sorry I could not be there in person, but I simply wanted to send a message in the spirit of peace and inter-faith dialog — because that’s essentially what Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) stood for.
And I think that’s something that people have to understand in this day and age of religious conflict and sectarianism — is that The Prophet, if you recognize him as a prophet — was carrying on the tradition of The Abrahamic Faiths — going back to Abraham and Moses — because having read the Old Testament, or the New Testament, as a young man, when I came upon [across] the Koran I was amazed to find how The Prophet drew upon the stories of Moses, he drew upon The Old Testament — Shariah Law was essentially Judaic law [Mosaic law] — and how much respect he showed also for Isa — Jesus.
There is something very important to understand in all this because people often ask me: ”Why did you accept Islam?” And I frankly never had a second thought about it: Why?
Because I believed that Moses, Abraham, their whole lineage is littered with prophets — and I believe that Jesus is a prophet — then how can I doubt that muhammad who comes and relates their stories and their same mission and their truth — how can he be any less of a prophet?
So to recognize this lineage and this work that Prophet Muhammad was doing is to become Muslim.
Whether or not you follow every ritual — it’s no different whether you’re Jewish or Christian or Muslim there are flaws in all people — there are flaws in every man, woman, child — but as people if we can recognize that which is best, that which is good, that which brings out our higher qualities, our higher nature, then we are tending towards God, towards understanding God.
And that is the true nature of faith. The truth nature of faith is to not demand that the world abide by our own will, but to have faith that God knows best, and despite all the conflict and tension that he may create in the world, and the difference people find within each other — we still have faith that God will order it and do as he wills with all people.
And it is not upon us —it is not left to us —to do God’s work — we do not have to condemn or punish people for their difference in faith, because our faith is so strong in God to do as he wills with them.
Towards this end I want to point out — unfortunately Prophet Muhammad is given a slightly ”negative bent” in this day and age, where many (even ”liberal”) people would say he is a ”terrorist” because he used violence to unify the people of Arabia.
And to look at The Prophet as a terrorist in the vein of modern terrorism is [not just] completely unhistorical but it’s also offensive. Because you can take for a case-in-point the constitution of Medina, which many people would point out is the first modern democratic constitution — as my friend ”sayyid amar” recently pointed out for me.
And we look at The Constitution of Medina. It is laid forth as principles by which people of a community that is not entirely Muslim are able to interact and operate under certain protections that are accorded to all believers —meaning Jews, Christians, and peoples of other faith.
And the most important, telling line of the document, the constitution, is the last — the forty-seventh principle — that says: God is the protector of the good and god-fearing men, and Muhammad is the apostle of God.
”God is The Protector of the Good and God-Fearing Men.”
It does not say ”God is the protector of Muslims.” It does not say God is the protector of what would become later Sunni or Shia — it says God is the protector of the good and god-fearing men!
And who are we? — in an age without a prophet — [today] there is no Prophet Muhammad, there is no Prophet Isa, there is no Prophet Moses — to lay down the principles or commands by which we should live — so who are we to assume THAT power?
Are we not attempting to be good and god-fearing men? I believe so.
But I think that the nature of being a God-fearing person is to never assume the power of God to condemn and judge absolutely.
We can judge within our inner consciousness and within the consciousness of our society that which we find reprehensible, that which we find immoral — but we can never condemn absolutely. That is where our faith in god must be strong.
We must know that God gives us all things, including Devils, for us to become better people.
So in that spirit of inter-faith dialog and the inter-faith day, I leave you with the message that Prophet Muhammad — as you know, Muhammad is a prophet — the lineage of the Abrahamic Faiths
And really that’s all it is to be a Muslim — beyond that we can debate, we can discuss — we can, even as Muhammad did, look to science [knowledge] as a guide, but we do not have to assume the authority of a God. Even Muhammad was more humble than that.
And that spirit of inquiry, of desiring knowledge, is the true essence of being a Muslim — I believe.
So I leave you with that message.
And please enjoy the day, in the spirit of peace.
Thank you.
Amin! (امين!)
I have been learning that in the world of ”information warfare” on-demand translation is very important.
Thank you friend.
The European languages: ”French” ”German” ”English” need more translation to Arabic, yes?
ClassifiedWoman.com
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query={anything}
this is the weakest link:
https://www.translate.google.com/search?q={anything}
https://translate.google.com/?hl=en#auto/en/amenThere is no replacing someone like you — who really knows how to translate!!
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Ed Diver posted an update in the group
World War III Watch: 1 week, 2 days ago · ViewThe Israel Attacks Are Not Irrelevant
by Tyler Durdenhttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-08/israel-attacks-are-not-irrelevant
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Ed Diver posted an update in the group
World War III Watch: 1 week, 2 days ago · ViewSyria Traffic Goes ”Dark” As Country Disappears From Internet
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-07/syria-traffic-goes-dark-country-disappears-internet
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I read a prophetic article today with a quote that will probably live with me till the end of my days:
Jim Kirwan
”The entire globe has reached a point where virtually everything is all now balanced on the head of the very last pin before everything falls directly into the open jaws of Hell.”
Found it here Ed:
https://piotrbein.wordpress.com/
Thanks for the post!
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News Discussion: 2 weeks, 4 days ago · ViewSimpson-Bowles 2.0
by Stephen Lendman
Simpson and Bowles (SB) are back. On April 18, the Washington Post headlined ”New Bowles-Simpson plan takes aim at deficit,” saying: They’re ”back in Washington with a new message for the nation’s policymakers: You’ve done the easy stuff. You’ve done the stupid stuff. Now it’s time to get serious.”
Both men represent the nation’s ruling class. They want more wealth transferred from ordinary people to corporate America and privileged elites like themselves…
Excellent resource. More evidence. Thanks Ed. By the way, for you:
Article: How Big Pharma is Killing Americans…
http://www.alternet.org/how-big-pharma-killing-americans-and-bankrupting-country
Commentary:
The Pharmaceutical industry, along with it’s diabolical methods and it’s many death tolls, is eerily similar to Nazi Germany’s Dr. Mengele and the many ”experiments” on the numerous innocent ”subjects.” I do indeed see many shocking parallels and very few actual differences. This is beyond simply reprehensible; Indeed, beyond totally criminal. I hasten to add that I am not a conspiracy-theory ”type,” but I am thinking that this maybe only one part of a much grander and much more sinister scheme, (like that of so-called austerity measures): This entire picture is looking more and more like deliberately engineered genocide. Just saying.
CM
Thanks CM! I, like many others, was shocked at the brazen intent of the super rich (our shepherds they like to call themselves) to radically reduce the human population- when I grew up we called that genocide right?.. I feel sometimes like a psychiatric patient, locked up, in a straight jacket, surrounded by crazy people and I’m trying to tell the truth of the world.. but of course their responses are crazy- they are!
Here is a video from a while ago from a pharmacist Ben Fuchs with lots of life saving advice, try to ignore silly old alex jones, Ben’s advice may save your life:
Ed Thank you. And I shot of advice:
Bask in the Absurd; Don’t stop speaking; Speak exactly what you see; Do not use Euphemisms. EVER. And then everyone will Hate you. So, In fact, enjoy it thoroughly as ”The Truth will set you Free…” Free of what I don’t know….
And Here’s a little something from our buddy Gore Vidal:
“I exist to say, ‘No, that isn’t the way it is,’ or ‘What you believe to be true is not true for the following reasons.’ I am a master of the obvious. I mean, if there’s a hole in the road, I will, viciously, outrageously, say there’s a hole in the road and if you don’t fill it in you’ll break the axle of your car. One is not loved for being helpful.”
~Gore Vidal
And another possibility:
The ”POWERS” are shutting people like ”us” down so that we are really just talking to ourselves…Just a thought.
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Ed Diver posted an update in the group
Knowlegde is power.: 2 weeks, 5 days ago · ViewWhat Next After The Recent Attack On Gold
By Bob RinearAn excerpt from The International Forecaster
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Knowlegde is power.: 3 weeks, 1 day ago · ViewEverything Is Rigged: The Biggest Price-Fixing Scandal Ever
The Illuminati were amateurs. The second huge financial scandal of the year reveals the real international conspiracy: There’s no price the big banks can’t fix
By Matt TaibbiAnd this will CONTINUE until WE THE PEOPLE put a STOP TO IT. How many ”scandals” must it take before we say ”NO MORE”?
WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?
This is a worldwide, quadrillion dollar plus, mafia styled system of theft. Even contemplating the worth of a thousand trillion (a million billions?) for some one who’s earnings are measured in thousands (”Wow I’d love to win ten grand” I heard someone say the other day) you can be forgiven for feeling slightly ill trying and then changing the channel. One thing to note, history shows us that there is always lag in huge revelations before a reality really takes hold, as far back as you look, ”the world is flat? naa..” ”we spin around the sun? arrest him!” .. so the race is really on now, will the world wake up to the banker control before they create their world tyranny to counter it?
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Ed Diver posted an update in the group
Knowlegde is power.: 3 weeks, 3 days ago · ViewAnother nice run down about our ’Democracy’ full of important info that will no doubt be deleted by the ”Ministry of Truth’
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04/21/money-for-nuttin-debt-for-free/
Posted this a day ago Ed…
Worth repeating:
Bringing children into the world is as natural as fucking. The kind of Wal-Mart, Wall Street, and 1% greed we see today, and for all of known history since usury was started and stopped and re-started, stupid is bringing children into a post-1950s and Rachel Carson world, ecologically speaking. The daily consumption of fish containing 5 to 6 ppm of mercury poses a lethal threat. Lethal doses of methyl mercury result in death to humans.
true that voodooman. i decided when i was a kid i did not want to bring children in this world. i could see back then the shit coming down the pike
Apologies Poet sir, am spending a lot of my spare time getting as self sufficient as I can, I now have a large garden, 1.5 glasshouses, solar power, the work shop I have always wanted (where I have fixed up 8 old bicycles- they are much tougher than the new ones) ..It has actually been fun and I have used recycled materials where ever I could (mostly for money reasons). So I’m not on the interweb as much as I’d like to be- apologies for past and future posting faux pas.
No prob. Great work…
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Euro Crisis is Just Beginning, Global Collapse is Coming
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Can you feel the tension in the air at the moment? Everyone I talk to, from all walks of life, from many parts of the world are telling me work is quieter than usual for this time of year.. the world economy has taken another small notch downward and hope for recovery is all but gone, it’s not even spoken of away from media (which for 4 years now has told us ”the economy is back on track!”) and with spring on the way for the northern hemisphere we again are in the danger zone for conflict and later in the year we have to negotiate the equally dangerous autumnal lows in the economy.. another year full of dangers for us, the innocent masses. I hope we see it through and have another winter to get ready for the inevitable grand crisis, whatever final form it takes.
Peace to us all.See the Organization of the block plan system, sooner rather than later
The U.S. Office of Civilian Defense (OCD) organized and promoted the block plan to states in 1942 to be patterned after the familiar air raid block warden plan. In fact, it was suggested that, for the sake of simplicity, the war services plan be overlaid on the existing geographical boundaries of the air raid plan. The government asked all cities with a population of 2,500 or more to set up the block plan. The federal Agriculture Extension Service helped develop a similar system for rural areas that included neighborhood leaders. As part of the plan, a typical city hierarchy was devised to reach every home. At the top was the chief of the city’s block leader service, followed by several zone leaders who would have jurisdiction over from four to 15 sector leaders. These volunteers in turn would manage the efforts of a number of block leaders. Each block leader had responsibility for about 15 families. Because of the wide variation in housing facilities, a typical neighborhood block with single family detached homes might have one block leader while a more high density block with large apartment buildings might have three block leaders. While the program saw significant variations to meet local circumstances, officials wanted to avoid overloading block leaders with too many households.
I like it! thanks Adoration sir
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Anonymous – Urgent Message to Anonymous from Anonymous. RE_ Bradley Manning
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Barofsky, Born and Miller’s bombshells (video and notable quotes on “too big to fail”)
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