One of our original common ground platforms was “Re-open the 9-11 Investigation” (http://ampedstatus.org/network/original-99platform).
This group will be for us to post the best evidence we can find that the world should re-open this investigation. Attempts to debunk “9-11 conspiracy theory (and-or fact)” will be welcomed. Irrational arguments, ad hominem, and angry arguments in general will not be welcomed, not on any side of the issues.
Also post anything here that generally pertains to 9-11 related issues, such as how it has affected our culture and national policies (to name just the first two examples I can think of).
Israel responsible for 9/11 distracts from scrutiny of the .01%
New HD Video Debunks 9/11 Airline Scenario
The Video Google/YouTube Doesn’t Want You to See
[Cross-posted at @bikini_bomb news]
What does Silvio Berlusconi have to say about 9/11?
There can be nothing more shocking than to have seen The Siege (the movie) in 1998, and then less than three years later what has come to be known as 9/11 was televised live on CNN, and with the Patriot Act being the least of the daily inconveniences to us since September 11, 2001, today we learn from Francesco Cossiga that 9/11 was a kind of Pearl Harbor as dreamed up by the geniuses over at PNAC – See the Cheney-Bush White House (neocon), and remnants of the cowardly GHWB-CIA alive and as deadly as ever. God, how they didn’t expect Barack Obama to be elected to the presidency. As for me, when Silvio Berlusconi says 911 was a CIA-MOSSAD conspiracy, then I’ll believe it, but until then, I’m putting my money in mattresses. Thanks, and cc: Poet.
The 9/11 Phone Calls: Disturbing Irregularities Uncovered in the Calls that Flashed around the World
PRN.fm – The 9/11 Consensus Panel offers four evidence-based Points about the alleged phone calls from the 9/11 flights. The famous “let’s roll” drama of the passenger revolt on UA 93 was relayed by passenger Todd Beamer’s 13-minute unrecorded seat-back call to GTE telephone supervisor Lisa Jefferson, who reported Beamer as strangely tranquil, declining to speak to his wife. Eerily, Beamer’s line remained open for 15 minutes after the crash. Oddly, the Verizon wireless record shows that 19 calls were made from Beamer’s cell phone long after the crash of UA 93. Initial media reports and FBI interviews detailed more than a dozen cell phone calls from the planes at high elevation. Yet in 2001, a telephone spokesperson stated that sustained mobile calls were not possible above 10,000 feet. Thanks, and cc: @DannySchechter – News Dissector
[Cross-posted in the AmpedStatus/Network News discussion group archives.]
dxm: Sorry. I’m a little dense sometimes. Tell me again why scrambled jets and bomb-sniffing dog ops were coincidentally staged at the same time as 9/11 and the Boston Bombing ops? See NORAD and Air Force as 911-type ops on September 11, 2001 respectively. It should be noted that the bomb-sniffing dogs in Boston were sniffing for bombs on the wrong side of the street, and tell me the Popular Mechanics debunking ‘9/11 conspiracies’ story again, or the ”Art students” story. And did you hear the one about thermite residue found in the ground zero rubble before it was exported to China for recycling?
I have a problem with anything with the name Rense on it, or whose writers refer to alleged 9/11 conspirators as lowlifes, or Likudniks as Likudnits. And what’s with identifying every Jew who is a Jew as a Jew but not identifying Don Rumsfeld as a war criminal? I am also suspicious of 9/11 conspiracy stories that make no mention of Bush family members. Otherwise, great find, so thanks, and cc: @PoetParzival.
These are ”Jewish” names? Not exactly Smith or Jones in America, or Smith or Jones as Americans
Are they the names of Jewish people who actually exist, and is there any evidence to prove that any of them had a direct connection to 9/11 as co-conspirators? And it must piss off ”we the undersigned” to see their names on these kinds of lists that there’s nothing they can do to stop it. BTW, are any of these people-as-suspects (Larry Silverstein, Frank Lowy, Ronald S. Lauder, Lewis Eisenberg, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Adam Gadahn aka Adam Pearlman (deceased), Ben Venzke, Jim Melnick, Philip Zelikow, Stephen Cauffman, Kenneth Feinberg, Alan D. Ratner, Dov Zakheim, Rita Katz, Michael B. Mukasey, Alvin K. Hellerstein, Michael S. Goff, Amit Yoran, Dominic Suter, Michael Chertoff, Benjamin Chertoff, Kobi Alexander, Jerome Hauer, Jules Kroll, Daniel Lewin (deceased), Ezra Harel and Menachem Atzmon, and, the ”dancing” Israelis; Sivan Kurzberg, Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Schmuel, and Oded Ellner, and ”former Director of Central Intelligence Jew James Schlesinger”) on anybody’s ”no-fly” watch list? For the record: Apartheid, Antisemitism and white privilege have no place here.
more questions now than answers then
”Most of the national and international media have left Boston, and essentially moved on from the Marathon bombing story. But at WhoWhatWhy, we’re just getting started. Why? Because we see a lot of problems with what we’ve been told so far.”
dxm: One of the most intelligently written articles on the Marathon Bombing yet posted, plus reader comments. Thanks to News Dissector for find.
New 9/11 truth documentary among ’most watched’ on PBS this week
Jeb bush resigned the same morning that an indian coin made it out and the morman’s latter day saints book has chapter of nephi massacre of the indians.
it states that the indian’s curse would continue until removed, so Romney had the dog on the roof chasing nazi codes, why are they chasing my family genelogy nazi codes?
Also if I don’t have the books that I did to finish school because the files that were in the pentagon that they brought to store under the WTC. The book states how the words or wisdom before 9/11 the international trades that went wrong, then with Bush and Romney you have 100 percent of the trades again because the indian coin made it out not lifes/
So there’s new jobs for the production line to put in instead of destroying the earth, to actually take care of it, I dont want it where there’s not enough people employeed to pick up the mess that is being made on the earth, there’s a company that can go pick up bush’s mess in South America and get paid for it and then there’s jobs in the production line, Keystone energy is a no, because it’s a federal offense to pull moss that’s thousands of years old and it’s part of the air that we breathe, why destroy what keeps the earth moving, why kill it? Really? These jobs need to catch up the messes that you guys seem to be making somewhere, Romney and Bush are chasing the nazi codes so hard that they are only teling on themselves, I noticed for election they tried to get Russia before America, because of the space race which instead N. Korea and Iran are having, then stated that france was gone cause america loves america so much they took a revolution from france making america number one again, but we are missing our triple A rating, and nobody seems to understand that im a brain, I see this stuff and nobody talked to me, but going after Assange, Manning, and other people instead, Bosten Tea Party, Bush and Romney still have some explaining to do to the american people, they are the opposites of black and whilte michael jackson.
”Here’s the trailer for the new comprehensive DVD covering the Toronto Hearings on 9/11 from this past September, which brought together expert witnesses to present evidence contrary to the official story to a distinguished panel, who will draft a report based on the evidence submitted.”
The #ASSASSINATION_WATCH question still left unanswered: Among the usual suspects, who is the most likely to provide material support for such operations as 9/11 and the killing of Petraeus and the president?
The Plot to Kill President Obama
By David Ignatius – WaPo
”Administration officials said Friday that the Obama-Petraeus plot was never a serious threat.”
Update: Abdulaziz al-Hijji, a London-based Saudi oil executive is accused of association with 9/11 hijackers
For anyone who cares, Tweetie Bird (Chris Matthews) is keeping the ”Saudi connection to 9/11” story going for one more day. But where he doesn’t get it is that the Saudi flew the planes, sure enough, but besides the US government giving cover to the Saudis because we needed them as participants in the Coalition of the Willing Cheney-Bush White House (neocon) Shock and Awe war on Iraq, not to mention our absolute dependence on Saudi oil for domestic consumption. It was even suggested (in the Hardball transcript) that if the Saudis were involved in flying the planes into the Twin Towers, that would be more of a shock to the national psyche than could be withstood. But again, the point that Chris Matthews misses is that the Saudis had nothing to do with the 9/11 ”detonations” (that brought the buildings down – as a demolition – and then there is the small matter of Building 7 collapsed as a wholly separate operation. So that’s the stuff conspiracies are made of, and it is not outside the realm of possibility that the same as who assassinated President Kennedy also had a hand in September 11, 2001. Or to say the least, one need not be a ”truther” to know there are unanswered 9/11 questions. Questioning members of the Saudi ”Royal” Family (government) is as good a starting point as any. Thanks again to Cathy Consoli @usedtobesupermom for her link-to the ever-vigilant Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth.
Did anyone besides Morning Joe notice?
Abdulaziz al-Hijji, a London-based Saudi oil executive is accused of association with September 11 (9/11) hijackers
Saudi Arabia May Be Tied to 9/11, Say Ex-Senators Bob Graham and Bob Kerrey
By Eric Lichtblau – New York Times
In case you haven’t been here yet:
Hollywood Stars Seek to Make Feature Film Focused on WTC Demolitions
Coming out, 9/11/2012 ?
”Without explosives there’s no way two identical 110 story buildings could collapse in about a dozen seconds each.”
9/11 In Plane Site – Director’s Cut
This was made when G.W. Bush was in office.
Also see: Hal Sisson: 911 For Whose Benefit? (video)
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