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EXPOSED: David DeGraw Works For A Soros-CIA-Obama-Socialist Front Group That Is Secretly Controlling the #OWS 99% Movement

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By David DeGraw

That is my Onion-esque satirical headline to make light of what has become a very frustrating and infuriating experience. There are all sorts of wild conspiracy theories being spun about the #OWS 99% Movement and I have come under personal attack. I have repeatedly been confronted by irate people that accuse me of working for or with people like George Soros, Lyndon LaRouche, the FBI, CIA, US State Department and/or the Democratic Party and the Obama Administration. Let me be 100% clear here, all of these accusations are F.A.L.S.E.

First of all, the #OWS 99% Movement is a genuine leaderless decentralized grassroots movement. In my opinion, it is built upon the hard work of hundreds of thousands of people who have taken it upon themselves to fight back against their own financial oppression and in defense of their family and country. As someone who has spent countless hours, days, weeks at Liberty Park, it is evident that people here come from all different walks of life and have all different political viewpoints. The uniting factor is that most of the people here realize that America has been taken over and is currently occupied by global financial interests. They have seized control of our government, economy and tax system, and have rigged our political process against hardworking Americans. People at Liberty Park, the 99%ers, are here to defend the United States against a global financial oligarchy. They are not here because they are the puppets of anyone. They are fighting back against economic tyranny PERIOD.

It is highly insulting when people make accusations that we are essentially puppets of other interests. Just come to Liberty Park and try telling someone who has been pepper-sprayed, beaten with police sticks and arrested that they are puppets of people like Soros and Obama. See how they respond to that. The people making these accusations and spinning these conspiracy theories haven’t even had enough respect to come to Liberty Park to talk directly with us.

To clear up any questions or misguided theories about my role and background within the movement, I have already written a long report, which I will repost below, that people making accusations against me have repeatedly ignored and have refused to reference. When people make unfounded accusations and blatantly ignore this history, I get the feeling that they are divide and conquer pawns.

In addition to the report below, in the spirit of full disclosure, here is a list of my reporting over the past 2.5 years.

Before making more accusations, I suggest you follow the links within this report to understand the full context:

Report from the Frontlines: The Long Road to #OccupyWallStreet and the Origins of the 99% Movement
By David DeGraw

… The road that led to the successful occupation has been a long, hard and winding one. When you go to Liberty Park, into the heart of the occupation, you will see a very diverse group of people with opinions across the entire political spectrum. It is the very essence of a ground-up grassroots decentralized movement. Everyone there has their own individual story on what brought them to take such a strong and inspiring stand in support this action. I urge members of the press and people interested in the movement to begin a dialogue with any one of the people taking part. There are many fascinating stories to be heard and a deeper understanding of what’s happening is impossible without hearing from a plurality of voices.

To give some background information, the following is a timeline of my 19-month long personal experience within the movement:

The Birth of the 99% Movement

On February 15th, 2010, AmpedStatus.com published the first-part of an extensive six-part series that I wrote detailing the financial destruction of the US economy. The report is entitled, “The Economic Elite Vs. The People of the United States.” The first sentence reads:

“It’s time for 99% of Americans to mobilize and aggressively move on common sense political reforms.”

The introduction goes on to say:

“It has now become evident to a critical mass that the Republican and Democratic parties, along with all three branches of our government, have been bought off by a well-organized Economic Elite who are tactically destroying our way of life. The harsh truth is that 99% of the US population no longer has political representation. The US economy, government and tax system are now blatantly rigged against us.

Current statistical societal indicators clearly demonstrate that a strategic attack has been launched and an analysis of current governmental policies prove that conditions for 99% of Americans will continue to deteriorate. The Economic Elite have engineered a financial coup and have brought war to our doorstep… and make no mistake, they have launched a war to eliminate the US middle class.”

The report quickly went viral and many popular websites picked it up and published it. AlterNet.org featured an adapted excerpt from the report with the headline, “The Economic Elite Have Engineered an Extraordinary Coup, Threatening the Very Existence of the Middle Class.” It became one of the most popular reports that they have ever published. In aggregate, across many websites that have publish sections of the report, it has received an estimated five million page views.

Soon after the report was released, AmpedStatus formed the 99% Movement based on a general platform put forth in part-six of the report, entitled “How to Fight Back and Win: Common Ground Issues That Must Be Won.”

As the movement began to build over the course of the next ten months, after a series of TV interviews in which I supported the 99% Movement and called for acts of non-violent civil disobedience, the AmpedStatus.com website was attacked and repeatedly knocked offline. The source of the attacks remains unknown. After publishing investigative reports detailing the fraudulent activities of Wall Street; the destructive impact the financial elite have had upon the American people; revealing direct connections between economic hardships in the US and the uprisings that, at the time, were just beginning to take shape throughout Northern Africa, the Middle East and Europe, it was obvious that we were upsetting many powerful forces.

As AmpedStatus was pushing for a decentralized global rebellion against Wall Street and actively supporting the Egyptian uprising against the IMF and Federal Reserve, the attacks on the site escalated. In what appeared to be a fatal blow, the entire ISP network that the AmpedStatus.com site was hosted on was knocked offline, hundreds of sites were also affected and the AmpedStatus.com web hosting provider said that they would no longer be able to host the site unless it was moved to a service that was significantly more than we were paying or could afford. With a very limited budget, and in complete desperation, AmpedStatus put out a call for help.

Anonymous Rides to the Rescue…

As AmpedStatus.com came under attack, Anonymous was playing a key role in supporting the uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia. When no one else with the needed technical expertise would help us and it became apparent that we would have to shut down our operation, several Anonymous members stepped up and offered to support and defend AmpedStatus.com from further attacks. They assisted in setting up a new hosting account and helped develop a new Independent social network for the 99% Movement. From that point on, AmpedStatus.com has not once been knocked offline due to an attack.

Once we regained our First Amendment rights and knew that we had backing from Anonymous members, we then defiantly released another extensive report in February, 2011 entitled, “Analysis of the Global Insurrection Against Neo-Liberal Economic Domination and the Coming American Rebellion – We Are Egypt.”

The introduction states:

“If you think what’s happening in Egypt won’t happen within the United States, you’ve been watching too much TV. The statistics speak for themselves.

In previous Revolution Roundups, before we were knocked offline, we featured mass protests by the people of Ireland, Italy, Britain, Austria, Greece, France and Portugal, as the Global Insurrection contagion spread throughout Europe. And now, as we have seen over the past month, North African and Middle Eastern nations have joined the movement as the people of Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, Morocco, Gabon, Mauritania, Yemen, Bahrain, Libya, Palestine, Iraq, Sudan and Algeria have taken to the streets en masse.

The connection between this latest round of uprisings and the prior protests throughout Europe is one the mainstream media is not making. We are witnessing a decentralized global rebellion against Neo-Liberal economic imperialism. While each national uprising has its own internal characteristics, each one, at its core, is about the rising costs of living and lack of financial opportunity and security. Throughout the world the situation is the same: increasing levels of unemployment and poverty, as price inflation on food and basic necessities is soaring.

Whether national populations realize it or not, these uprisings are against systemic global economic policies that are strategically designed to exploit the working class, reduce living standards, increase personal debt and create severe inequalities of wealth. These global uprising, which have only just begun, are the first wave of the inevitable reaction to the implementation of a centralized worldwide Neo-Feudal economic order.

The global banking cartel, centered at the IMF, World Bank and Federal Reserve, have paid off politicians and dictators the world over — from Washington to Greece to Egypt. In country after country, they have looted national economies at the expense of local populations, consolidating wealth in unprecedented fashion…”

Within this report, there was a section calling for an occupation of Wall Street, in what is referred to as “The Empire State Rebellion.”

A sub-group within Anonymous then joined with the AmpedStatus 99% Movement and we began a collaborative effort known as A99.

A broad A99 platform was presented on the AmpedStatus social network. The platform represented a diverse mix of political viewpoints that members felt would properly represent the 99% of the population that has lost political representation. [View original platform here.]

On Mar 12, 2011, Anonymous A99 announced their first operation by posting a video to the AmpedStatus YouTube page. The effort was called “Operation Empire State Rebellion” (#OpESR). The video “OpESR Communication #1” stated the following:

“We are a decentralized non-violent resistance movement, which seeks to restore the rule of law and fight back against the organized criminal class.

One-tenth of one percent of the population has consolidated wealth in unprecedented fashion and launched an all-out economic war against 99.9% of the population.

We are not affiliated with either wing of the two-party oligarchy. We seek an end to the corrupted two-party system by ending the campaign finance and lobbying racket.

Above all, we aim to break up the global banking cartel centered at the Federal Reserve, International Monetary Fund, Bank of International Settlements and World Bank.

We demand that the primary dealers within the Federal Reserve banking system be broken up and held accountable for rigging markets and destroying the global economy, effective immediately.

As a first sign of good faith, we demand Ben Bernanke step down as Federal Reserve chairman.

Until our demands are met and a rule of law is restored, we will engage in a relentless campaign of non-violent, peaceful, civil disobedience.”

Economic news site ZeroHedge quickly picked up the video and featured it on their site with the headline, “Hacker Group Anonymous Brings Peaceful Revolution To America: Will Engage In Civil Disobedience Until Bernanke Steps Down.”

The video then went viral and got over 225,000 views.

Anonymous Calls for a US Day of Rage

On March 23rd, Anonymous issued a press release calling for a “US Day of Rage.” The phrase, “A day of rage,” has been a rallying cry used in uprisings spreading throughout the Middle East. A new USDayofRage.org website was launched and their first press release, again quickly picked up by ZeroHedge, called for a day of mass action and pledged their support of A99′s original general platform. [Full release here.]

Throughout April and May, members of A99 were organizing and debating possible future actions. They decided that Flag Day, June 14th, would be an appropriate time to launch actions. They also set up several new Facebook pages, such as “#OpESR – Operation Empire State Rebellion Amped.”

On June 1st, this Anonymous call to action was published to AmpedStatus:

Acts of Resistance: What Are You Going To Do To Rebel Against Economic Tyranny?

Acts of Resistance: What Are You Going To Do On June 14th to Rebel Against Economic Tyranny?The big banks have sold us out.
Democrats and Republicans have sold us out.
No one is defending our interests.
Our future is going up in flames.

It’s time for us to stand up and defend ourselves.

Trillions of dollars in fraudulent activity by the big banks on Wall Street caused our current economic crisis. Paid off politicians from both parties, along with secret deals made by the Federal Reserve, gave trillions of taxpayer dollars and subsidies to the very people who caused our crisis. After taking our tax dollars, they had the audacity to give themselves all-time recording-breaking bonuses and consolidate wealth in unprecedented fashion within the economic top 0.01% of the population.

While a record number of Americans are currently living in poverty and on food stamps; while millions of American families have been foreclosed upon; while health care, food and gas costs are skyrocketing; while over 200 million Americans are living paycheck to paycheck struggling to make ends meet, the super-wealthy have never had it better. We now have the most severe inequality of wealth in American history. The depravity of the Robber Barons has been outdone.

As their current policies prove, economic central planners have become so arrogant and tyrannical in their shortsighted greed. They think we are an ignorant and apathetic population that they can continue to exploit without fear of rebellion.

We are finally declaring that we have had enough. We will not remain passive while global banking interests destroy our future. We know the systemic causes of our current crisis and we are going to strike at the root.

On this Flag Day, June 14th, Operation Empire State Rebellion (#OpESR) will launch. #OpESR is a decentralized non-violent resistance movement to end the system of political bribery (campaign finance and lobbying) and break up the big banks centered at the Federal Reserve.

To coincide with the launch of this movement, people have begun organizing acts of resistance throughout the US. We are calling upon you to take an action of your own. Whether it’s taking part in a local public protest, withdrawing your money from one of the big six banks, starting a community group or passing out fliers. Anything you can do to rebel against the system of economic tyranny in a non-violent manner is welcome.

As a first step, please join the actions against the banks in one of the cities shown here, or use the ‘schedule an action’ tool to create your own.”

The online attention surrounding this call to action quickly grew. For a roundup of coverage see:

> Economic Rebellion Update – This Is What Decentralized Resistance Looks Like

> Prepare For Revolution: The Empire State Rebellion Begins on June 14th

On June 11th, Anonymous A99 released “OpESR Communication #2: Ctrl+Alt+Bernanke.”

“In this new video release, ‘as a first step,’ Anonymous has called for public protests beginning on June 14th, continuing ‘until Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke steps down.’ To make their case, they have presented a list of recent scandalous Federal Reserve actions.”

Once again, the video was posted to the AmpedStatus YouTube account and ZeroHedge quickly picked it up and featured it. The video instantly went viral attracting over 360,000 views on the AmpedStatus YouTube account alone. It became popular enough to break through and get some coverage from the mainstream corporate media. MSNBC, Time, Bloomberg and Forbes were among many news outlets to cover it.

On June 13th, it was announced that as part this day of action a group of people will occupy Liberty Park, a strategic public space closest to Wall Street and the New York Federal Reserve building. This Anonymous statement was released:

Activists to Occupy Financial District’s Liberty Park Until Demands Are Met – Operation Empire State Rebellion Begins

“On June 14th at 1pm EST, a group of activists will begin occupation of Liberty Park (recently renamed Zuccotti Park) in lower Manhattan’s Financial District, a few blocks from Wall Street (14971 Broadway, 10007). A Google Map featuring the event states the following:

‘This Flag Day, Tuesday June 14th, we will launch a non-violent movement with this list of demands:

* End the campaign finance and lobbying racket
* Break up the Fed & Too Big to Fail banks
* Enforce RICO laws against organized criminal class
* Order Ben Bernanke to step down’

Gary Roland, an organizer of the action, says they will occupy the park ‘indefinitely, to express non-violent dissent to the further consolidation of wealth into the hands of international corporations by the corrupted two-party oligarchy. This is a non-violent action that seeks to express dissent and raise awareness of the failures of our current political discourse, until our demands are satisfied.’”

With only 16 people showing up at Liberty Park, and only four prepared to occupy it, this part of the day’s actions were considered by some to be a disappointing failure. Though this intense form of civil disobedience didn’t gain enough support at that time, the many other actions happening throughout the day were very successful.

Anonymous A99 issued an extensive report detailing the days actions: “OpESR Status Update: Empire State Rebellion Day 1.” In the report, the section on occupying Liberty Park reads:

“The most ambitious ground operation launched on Day 1 was in New York City’s Financial District, just a few blocks from Wall Street, at Liberty Park. The protest only attracted 16 people in total, with only 4 people ready to occupy the park indefinitely. While this operation was a fail due to lack of participants, we want to thank the event organizer Gary Roland and the three other people who were prepared to occupy the park: David DeGraw, Oren Clark and Kevin Dann.

Getting people to stand up in this way requires a very strong commitment that most people have not yet realized will be necessary and in their best interests. As we continue Awareness Operations and build momentum, we will reactivate this part of our Ground Operation at a future date. We have set up a social network group dedicated to planning this operation. If you are ready to peacefully occupy a public place, please join the planning group here.”

On the very same day as the launch of the Empire State Rebellion and the failed Liberty Park action, there was a group of activists assembling down the road from Liberty Park. They were preparing to set up camp in what became known as Bloombergville to protest against New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s budget cuts. Gary Roland, after leaving Liberty Park with a feeling frustration, decided to join the Bloomberg protests.

Enter the New York City General Assembly

During the Bloomberg protests a group of activists, including Gary Roland, formed a People’s General Assembly, which eventually evolved into the New York City General Assembly (NYCGA), to help facilitate an organized non-violent movement. After the two-week long Bloomberg occupation near the city capital building, the NYCGA kept meeting and building toward the next major protest event. The NYCGA would go on to play the most pivotal role on the ground, building a large turnout through old-fashioned grassroots community-based organizing.

As the NYCGA was being formed, Anonymous A99 debated the exact date in which they would return to Liberty Park for another attempt at achieving the occupation of Wall Street. They were committed to a strategy of three-month cycles. Their first communication was issued on March 12th, the second video calling for protests was released 90-days later on June 11th. They debated and it appeared that the next attempted occupation of Liberty Park would occur on September 10th.

Adbusters Makes the Call…

As the debate among Anonymous A99 was happening and a date for occupation was being finalized, Adbusters magazine issued an open call for an occupation of Wall Street on September 17th. Anonymous, A99 OpESR, US Day of Rage and the NYCGA quickly endorsed the action. With the NYCGA focused on community-based organizing, Adbusters, Anonymous, AmpedStatus, A99, US Day of Rage, WagingNonViolence and many other sites actively pushed out the message online urging people to take part in the action. WeAreThe99Percent.com and OccupyWallSt.org were then Independently launched to directly support the action. Indymedia’s Global Revolution media team provided a livestream video feed to cover the event, which then inspired many more people to come and join the occupation once it had begun. It was this serendipitous confluence of decentralized Independent groups and thousands of individuals taking it upon themselves to take action that helped make the successful occupation of Liberty Park possible.

Moving Forward…

Ultimately, all of the groups mentioned throughout this report were just the seeds that helped launch what is now known as the #OccupyWallStreet 99% Movement. As the occupation of Liberty Park continues to grow and enters it’s third week, with no signs of protesters even considering leaving, the people most actively taking part are committed to remaining a decentralized leaderless movement based on the direct democratic process of deciding on future demands and actions through a consensus of those participating. In the spirit of the movement, people acting on their own have begun like-minded actions and occupations throughout the country.

The only unifying call to action seems to be:

“Anything you can do to rebel against the system of economic tyranny in a non-violent manner is welcome.”

As Anonymous A99 wrote in response to questions about their movement:

“We are a DECENTRALIZED non-violent movement. If you are looking to contact one of our leaders, go to the nearest mirror and peer deeply into it. It may take some time, but, eventually, one of our leaders will appear with answers to all of your questions.”

What more can you say?

As I’m typing this, the NYC General Assembly meeting just came to an end, I hear the sound of drums, looks like it’s time for another march. An NYPD officer who supports our efforts just gave me a nod and said, “Hey man, you better get back to the frontlines. The troops are on the move.” It’s another day of battle at Liberty Park.

The occupation of Wall $treet rages on…

UPDATE: Here are two additional videos that were not originally presented in this piece:

The Road to Revolution: 99% Uprising
Oct, 2010

This video is a musical remix of highlights from David DeGraw’s TV interviews. He exposes the financial terrorism network that has looted the global economy and calls for a 99% movement to restore the rule of law. As DeGraw has said, “Republicans and Democrats have failed us. Both parties have been bought off by a well-organized Economic Elite who are tactically destroying our way of life. The harsh truth is that 99% of the US population no longer has political representation. The US economy, government and tax system are now blatantly rigged against us. It’s time for revolution!”

Empire State Rebellion: An Idea Whose Time Has Come – #OpESR
March, 2011

This video features clips from David DeGraw’s interview with Max Keiser. Clip images from the OpESR video were edited in.



- David DeGraw is the editor of AmpedStatus.com. An archive of his reports is available here. You can contact him via email: David[@]AmpedStatus.com

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  1. Backyard203 said:

    David, you are one of my personal heroes!  Thanks for all that you provide!

  2. Anonymous said:

    What they said here is SLANDER to say the least! Whoever is behind this I sure hope they get what they deserve! David DeGraw doesn’t deserve this treatment! He should be applauded for what he does!

    EXPOSED: David DeGraw Works For A Soros-CIA-Obama-Socialist Front Group That Is Secretly Controlling the #OWS 99% Movement

  3. Richard said:

    The Communist subversives in our govt apparently feel so confident in their agenda they’re not even hiding it anymore!  We’ve been hijacked America and these commie subversives have taken control of our govt.  We now have a Dept. of Injustice, Eric Holder is a joke, Bernanke is a joke, Obama is a joke, the whole damn govt is a joke.  They’re out of control and need to be reigned in!

    As Mr. DeGraw has said, both political parties have been taken over and we, the people, have NO representation anymore.  I applaud the efforts of Mr. DeGraw and he is wise to know that the criminals in charge would just love to see us use violent means of protest so they can declare martial law and then suspend our Constitution!  No, we’re not following for that ploy.

    Again, thank you Mr. DeGraw for your efforts and continued success in your endeavors to help save America from these criminals!

    God Bless and God’s speed!

  4. Matt Prather said:

    Infowars writer Kurt Nimmo started writing about Occupy Wall Street, convinced it was a socialist/globalist conspiracy:
    1: http://www.infowars.com/occupy-wall-street-a-globalist-op-designed-to-destroy-efforts-to-end-the-fed
    2: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26914

    A week later, he finally did some reporting after his team checked it out in person:
    3: http://www.infowars.com/infowars-examines-occupy-wall-street

    There is a difference between #3 and the first two.

    In #3 there is the acknowledgement that the protesters are not empty-headed dupes and that the movement is not really secretly controlled. I think it’s also fair to say that Kurt Nimmo has a consistent prejudice against anything that resembles “socialism”.

    And I see there is tension between people who believe in freedom and free markets and people who believe in freedom and progressivism and-or socialism. Both types of people believe that “we the people” should be free. The ideological bias that most people have about “capitalism is the only way” versus “we need to have some benign socialism to guarantee a free people” is going to be a big stumbling block to progress.

    I say that the “capitalism only” crowd has more than a little to learn about how far away our country has always been from the capitalism they talk about. AKA: America’s success was not due to the form of capitalism they think it was. Belief in capitalism is much like belief in communism — neither one have ever been tried in the real world.

    And the “socialism only” crowd of course needs to acknowledge that socialism/government is just as susceptible to being subverted by oligarchs as was “capitalism”.

    A basic paradigm shift the way we treat each other, and how closely we hold our leaders accountable will be needed. GOOD NEWS: it’s happening already, more so every day!

    Keep up the good work, David!!

  5. Adhcalypso said:

    I have hated to see so many groups work to co-opt your efforts and mission, David. Anyone who doesn’t know where you stand and are coming from would have to be a moron. That seems to be the “double-edged sword” nature of a “leaderless resistance movement”. I can’t help but find myself wishing that it had established your original focus from the beginning. But perhaps, it may never have then grown to capture the attention it now has. So, I only hope at some point, it begins to coagulate around a small, focused set of the most critical issues that most of the 99% can understand, relate to and support.   

  6. Adhcalypso said:

    I think it is essential that if this movement is going to be successful, that somehow the focus needs to move towards resistance and opposition to the “corruption” that exists in the current oligarchy and away from “capitalism” vs “socialism”. There is a huge difference in what groups as diverse as these can support I believe. The problems we have experienced are not due to “capitalism” since what we have evolved into could only be considered a dysfunctional form of captialism at best. Instead, it would be better described as an addict that has been enabled by the Fed and government policies. That is not “capitalism”. Instead, it is closer to a socialistic form of facism. It is the “evils of corruption” that needs to be the focus. Any system that is corrupt will fail to serve the best interests of the people.  

  7. Adhcalypso said:

    I think it is essential that if this movement is going to be successful, that somehow the focus needs to move towards resistance and opposition to the “corruption” that exists in the current oligarchy and away from “capitalism” vs “socialism”. There is a huge difference in what groups as diverse as these can support I believe. The problems we have experienced are not due to “capitalism” since what we have evolved into could only be considered a dysfunctional form of captialism at best. Instead, it would be better described as an addict that has been enabled by the Fed and government policies. That is not “capitalism”. Instead, it is closer to a socialistic form of facism. It is the “evils of corruption” that needs to be the focus. Any system that is corrupt will fail to serve the best interests of the people.  

  8. Michael Morgan said:

    Here is an amazing power that the People of the world have to kill the corporate monsters.  Give this some thought, please.  If the People will agree to work together on this we will win. 
    There’s a debt relief idea that I’ve been hearing proposed more & more often.  I think it merits discussion in the General Assemblies at the Occupy councils, in homes, churches and in the workplace under the heading of “possible long term solutions.”
     
    “Jubilee and Debt Cancellation”
    “In the Jubilee Year as quoted in Leviticus, those enslaved because of debts are freed, lands lost because of debt are returned, and community torn by inequality is restored.”
     
    I’ve heard Jubilee suggested by people who knew that it was not in their financial best interests but thought that, logically, it was the fairest solution. 
     
    ‘Jubilee’ is an Old Testament, (Leviticus 25,) remedy for debt relief.  The overall idea being, the slate is wiped clean and everybody starts over with what you have at hand.  No more debt, period.  People out here in the hinterlands are talking about that as the best possible solution that will help the most people.  We were conned into living in a ‘debt based’ society.  We need to go back to when being in debt was a bad thing, as it was 30 to 40 years ago before TV & modern marketing practices corrupted centuries of intelligent thought and wisdom.  
     
    After Jubilee on Jan. 1st, 2012, the residence & car you have now is yours, no more payments or rent.  Whoever legally, technically ‘owned’ that building / residence before is SOL.  It might just be an apt. in a 5,000 unit building but it’s your apt.  You are responsible for it from now on & it’s up to you to work out the details of maintenance, etc. with your neighbors.  The employees of any corporate owned restaurant (i.e. McDonalds) now own the restaurant.  It’s their business on equal shares.  They either run it successfully or when the business goes bust, they are out of a job.
     
    People who already own & operate a personal business keep their personal business that they go to every day & run.  A chain of corporate hotels would be broken up & owned equally by the workers of the individual hotel, as in the McDonalds restaurant chain example.  The current chain owner (Mr. Hilton) would get to pick ONE business in the chain to keep & work himself.  (The best one, of course.  That is his inalienable right as an owner / worker.)
     
     
    There is an article at the purple link below, calling for Jubilee based on reasoning / logic as to why it is necessary.  I’ve thrown together a few thoughts on how it could possibly be implemented with the least disruption to the people.  The entire exercise is to do the most good for the most people with the least pain & disruption possible.  We ALL know the current situation is coming apart at the seams.  Nobody really knows what to do except pray & be ready for anything.  The ONLY consensus that I’ve found is that we have to do something else because what is going on now is not sustainable.  This is an attempt to get us through the coming meltdown without martial law, looting & killing in the streets, etc.
       http://www.goldstockbull.com/articles/endgame-when-debt-is-fraud-debt-forgiveness-is-the-last-and-only-remedy/ 
     If you’re at all interested in applying a few minutes to this idea I’d appreciate it.  Not for my sake so much as for the rest of humanity.   
     Just for a general point of reference in all of this discussion, when I say ”Abolish corporations”, Break up the banks”, it DOES NOT mean that people will lose their mom & pop business that has incorporated for tax & liability purposes.  “Abolish corporations”, etc. is referring to GE, General Dynamics, Coke, Caterpillar – any corporation that is big enough to be traded on Wall Street because Wall Street must go away into oblivion just like the too-big-to-fail banks (GS /BoA / Wells Fargo, etc.) & the too-big-to-fail corporations, (i.e.  Boeing / Walmart / etc.)
     We have some good infrastructure in place that we don’t want to destroy.  Juan Valdez still wants to sell us his coffee & bananas.  The ship’s captain & crew still want to transport them to the U.S.  We want to drink the coffee & eat the bananas.  We want people to have property & carry on commerce for reasonable profit.  We want innovation & progress.  We just want to start over with a more level playing field & a fairer system.
     
    IF the People the world over will all participate in this and refuse to make any more loan payments to anybody (and who can refuse a deal like that?) there’s nothing that the banks can do about it.  Without the current massive debt burden our economies would flourish.  There may be a little chaos & confusion at the beginning but we’ll work the kinks out.  Remember, Juan still wants to sell coffee & you want to buy it.  It CAN happen in a new system that does not rely on a stock market.  For example:  The illegal drugs trade continues & flourishes IN SPITE OF the govt.’s best efforts to stop it.   (sic.)
     
     
     
    JOBS
     
    There is a great side benefit to this plan besides debt relief.  Because many people will retire almost immediately when they have no debt, a great many jobs will be opened up or created for the intelligent, energetic youth who brought about this great change.
     
    If this is truly a worldwide movement, this idea could go viral & we might move the date up to Nov. 1st.
     
    What do you think?
     
    Full disclosure:  This plan would have little effect on me.  I owe no money.  I own my home.  I own(ed) a small home repair business.  I possess no rental property.   I like the idea of a Jubilee, but I’m in sort of a unique position.  It would hardly affect me except as to my interactions with my community, and whither the entire community flourished and prospered so that there would actually be goods & services & adequate health care available.
     
    Michael Morgan
    828 215 6789
    Bigdog0002000@hotmail.com
     
     
     
     
    “I hold it that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms are in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people, which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much. It is medicine necessary for the sound health of government.”  — Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787.
     
    _______________________________________________________________________
     
    He sums it up real well.  (Both above & below.)
     
    http://libertytreefoundation.org/publications-talks/protest-wave-why-political-class-can’t-understand-our-demands
     
     
    ______________________________________________________________________
     
    occupytogether.org    to get the latest updates on locations, number of ongoing events, etc.
     
     
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    http://www.opednews.com/articles/Occupy-Asheville-NC–the-by-Michael-Morgan-111005-651.html
     
    http://www.opednews.com/Diary/Jubilee-will-defeat-big-ba-by-111006-458.html
     
    1.    Chris Hedges: The Best Among Us – Chris Hedges’ Columns – Truthdig
    Sep 29, 2011 … Chris Hedges Shares His Thoughts on Occupy Wall Street · Henry Giroux on Youth in a … Either you are a rebel or a slave. To be declared …
    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_best_among_us_20110929/ – Cached – Similar

  9. Michael Morgan said:

    Jubilee  on 1/1/12

    Michael

  10. Matt Prather said:

    Jubilee will probably help in many ways. It’s a good idea.

    Here are two “problems” though that you will still have to worry about:

    1: There will be charges of hypocrisy that Americans only believed in debt forgiveness after they got to the point where they couldn’t go on any more. They didn’t change the system during the decades in which they benefitted. We will have a lot of humble pie to eat for many decades more. Not a big problem, but a lot of self-centered Americans will have a hard time learning to be humble.

    2: The rent-seekers in our lives will still try to control us all going forward after a Jubilee. They will find new rents to make you pay to keep you working for them. Likewise, if we continue to use debt-based money, all the people with little-to-no money, and all the businesses needing money at any time to do business will fall right back into the power of the lenders:

    “Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin. Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough money to buy it back again.”

  11. Leda Mendez said:

    This is not an USA movement, it is not a personal  movement,  it is a global leaderless movement.  It is global because  the financial/economic elite is over all the people of the world.  Some socialists  and some capitalists  still think we are enemies as the elite has tried and succeded to put in our minds.  This fight is another completely difrerent thing.  This fight is not among nationalities or races  or religions as the elite tries and succeds to convince people.  They say:  Fight against yourselves and let us alone with the wealth and the money from the weapons sellings.  We have  to be very carefull and do not move your eyes from the  target.   I am Costarrican and we are following the events all over the world these movements are leaderless and  horizontal  October 15 we are going to be  in San José  in a world rebellion  Good luck and do not believe lies.  We are free and powerful if we are united.   

  12. Paul Trombley said:

    “And the ‘socialism only’ crowd of course needs to acknowledge that socialism/government is just as susceptible to being subverted by oligarchs as was ‘capitalism’.”

    Your remark is misleading claptrap. Socialism, in the sense of Marxism, Leninism, etc., is inherently oligarchistic, for when all producers’ goods are controlled by the government, someone has to make decisions about what projects will be undertaken and which projects, not. Since there are no prices for these goods under socialism, socialsm has a terrible calculation problem and, thus, a knowledge problem. Under socialism, the bureaucrats and politicans don’t have the relevant data which any entry-level financial analyst in a firm under unfettered capitalism would have and use to make forecasts about proposed projects. So the oligarchs of socialism lack objective criteria by which to decide what projects to choose and which to reject. What, then, is the solution?

    There’s no way for everyone, or even most people, in a collective of millions to have a say in what the government does, so it must be that a few have to make the decisions, and these few are the oligarchs. Of course, the oligarchs of socialism have just two tools through which to get their way: deception and coercion. Worse still, since power is radically concentated in a socialism, a culture of corruption is certain to surround the legislature, the executive, and the courts as the well-connected seek and compete for resources and for favors such as double standards under law, esp. the criminal law.

    You’re right about at least one thing, however. Indeed, “the protesters are not empty-headed dupes” but knaves who want a stern, overbearing, maternalistic government. No surprise, really, for every one of them is an ignorant child. Unfortunately, the children’s policies are layered atop what is already in place, and the result resembles fascism, a socialistic system in which government is both your mommy and your daddy. Fyi, the Fascists were center-left, and the Nazis were unashamedly anticapitalistic, welfare statist, nanny statist, etc. In fact, the main reason that radical socialists were not welcome in the NSDAP is that Hitler was worried that he’d not live very long. So he needed to wage a war of conquest asap, and to do that he needed to keep the armaments makers and other suppliers in business. So people like the Strasser brothers were shoved aside but with the expectation that after the war was won, resources would be freed up for welfare programs even more generous than those which the NSDAP inherited when they came to power.

    Unfortunately, under fascism, the government controls producers’ goods. Most of the substance of private property is gutted, while lip service to private property continues to be paid. (Sound familiar, Progressives?) So with fascism, or national socialism, if you prefer to call it that, you experience the socialists’ calculation problem anyway.

    Now, what else do Progressives, fascists, and national socialists have in common?

  13. Paul Trombley said:

    “And the ‘socialism only’ crowd of course needs to acknowledge that socialism/government is just as susceptible to being subverted by oligarchs as was ‘capitalism’.”

    Your remark is misleading claptrap. Socialism, in the sense of Marxism, Leninism, etc., is inherently oligarchistic, for when all producers’ goods are controlled by the government, someone has to make decisions about what projects will be undertaken and which projects, not. Since there are no prices for these goods under socialism, socialsm has a terrible calculation problem and, thus, a knowledge problem. Under socialism, the bureaucrats and politicans don’t have the relevant data which any entry-level financial analyst in a firm under unfettered capitalism would have and use to make forecasts about proposed projects. So the oligarchs of socialism lack objective criteria by which to decide what projects to choose and which to reject. What, then, is the solution?

    There’s no way for everyone, or even most people, in a collective of millions to have a say in what the government does, so it must be that a few have to make the decisions, and these few are the oligarchs. Of course, the oligarchs of socialism have just two tools through which to get their way: deception and coercion. Worse still, since power is radically concentated in a socialism, a culture of corruption is certain to surround the legislature, the executive, and the courts as the well-connected seek and compete for resources and for favors such as double standards under law, esp. the criminal law.

    You’re right about at least one thing, however. Indeed, “the protesters are not empty-headed dupes” but knaves who want a stern, overbearing, maternalistic government. No surprise, really, for every one of them is an ignorant child. Unfortunately, the children’s policies are layered atop what is already in place, and the result resembles fascism, a socialistic system in which government is both your mommy and your daddy. Fyi, the Fascists were center-left, and the Nazis were unashamedly anticapitalistic, welfare statist, nanny statist, etc. In fact, the main reason that radical socialists were not welcome in the NSDAP is that Hitler was worried that he’d not live very long. So he needed to wage a war of conquest asap, and to do that he needed to keep the armaments makers and other suppliers in business. So people like the Strasser brothers were shoved aside but with the expectation that after the war was won, resources would be freed up for welfare programs even more generous than those which the NSDAP inherited when they came to power.

    Unfortunately, under fascism, the government controls producers’ goods. Most of the substance of private property is gutted, while lip service to private property continues to be paid. (Sound familiar, Progressives?) So with fascism, or national socialism, if you prefer to call it that, you experience the socialists’ calculation problem anyway.

    Now, what else do Progressives, fascists, and national socialists have in common?

  14. Matt Prather said:

    None so deaf as those who will not hear…

    You have a lot to learn. I wonder if you even can.

    If we were in person I would try to explain to you the misplaced foundation-stones in your worldview. This being the internet, I will not reply past this note.

    You are one of the ones who needs to realize that we have never had capitalism, and that capitalism is not the reason for America’s previous success, and that what we now call capitalism is going to downsize human life due to our debt-money system, the centralized money trust, and the corporate imperative of “profits uber alles”.

  15. Anonymous said:

    David – Good job recounting the history of the Movement and the initiative. 

    There is still very widespread belief and many talking point adhered to by the MSM and Republican/Tea Party that there is a linkage to, and founding by George Soros/SEIU of the larger #OWS movement.  Further, there is often a belief that the “hidden agenda or real goal” of the Movement is to get Obama re-elected. 

    Those of us who have watched the growth from the early days know better.  But that doesn’t shut down the wingnut comments and talking points.  Anyone who has lifted the veil of the Obama Administration KNOW they are Minions of the Wall Street Banksters and place their interests and needs ahead of those of We The People.

    Nonetheless, somehow these broader talking points need to be shutdown.  And to be fair, while I trust your statement regarding the origins, the possibilities of other initiators, such as Adbusters, can be fairly questioned.  I leave with this link to an article that raises many of these concerns. http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/9269-big-soros-money-linked-to-occupy-wall-street

  16. Anonymous said:

    Ah, but David, those who engage in conspiracy thinking will never change.  I got interested in the whole topic of conspiracy thinking (not theories – thinking) not long ago because I had started to arrive at the conclusion that both the Left and the Right engage in such cognitive patterns.  Conspiracy thinking is the easy way out – blame everything on a shadowy group of people.  It seems to arise as a “catch-all” explanation for otherwise inexplicable events.  Some of the comments here have conspiracy thinking stamped all over them.  For those who are interested in this topic, check out the work of Mark Fenster and Timothy Melley.  You’ll be surprised at what you learn.  In the meantime, don’t even try to respond to those who engage in conspiracy thinking – it’s a waste of time.  You will never, ever, win an argument with someone who engages in conspiracy thinking.  Never.

  17. tribunus said:

  18. tribunus said:

  19. Anonymous said:

    I kinda know what you mean Alcuin.

    I  just pray you aren’t so smug as to think that people who are trying to get you to realize that three WTC buildings were destroyed on 9/11 in controlled demolitions are people you should ignore.

  20. Anonymous said:

    Matt, you just proved my point.  Here, read this, please:

    They assume that they are right.

    PCTs assume that their beliefs are correct and that those who don’t see things
    the way they do have been duped or that they need to open
    their minds.

    This stance is an argument from ignorance (see: argumentum
    ad ignorantiam). They place the burden of proof firmly on their opponents;
    whose position is wrongly assumed to be to disprove the theories. In fact
    the PCTs’ position does not change even if their theories are disproved: there’s
    always a way of reaffirming their position.

    There is usually little or no real evidence to back their theories. Instead,
    PCTs rely on retrospective analysis: logic and reason don’t matter; everything
    can be twisted to fit the plot. Events are simply interpreted to match the
    theory.

    Their theories cannot be challenged.

    PCTs do not treat their theories the way a historian or scientist treats theirs,
    which is to welcome challenges to their theory which will either strengthen
    it or refute/amend it.

    PCTs vehemently oppose any challenges to their theories. The first line of
    defence is to issue personal attacks (see: ad
    hominem) against their opponents. These are generally in the form of ridicule;
    their opponents not having the ability to see “the real truth”.

    The theories of PCTs are often unfalsifiable, such as: UFOs exist but the
    government is suppressing the evidence. Any counter-argument citing an official
    source is instantly dismissed, and any real evidence that refutes their claims
    is classed as contrived or planted by those “powers that be” who
    are out to fool us.

    Any evidence will do.

    Any evidence that lends credence to their theories will be uncritically accepted
    as truth. Any evidence that opposes their theories is dismissed out of hand.
    The quality of evidence is not important as long as it supports the conspiracy
    theory.

    Source: http://ukskeptics.com
     

  21. Anonymous said:

    They don’t assume they are right.

    I didn’t prove your point.

    You are the one who is being bigotted here and the facts essentially speak for themselves about the controlled demolitions of WTCs 1, 2, and 7.

    I am a very, very skeptical person about all conspiracies and I have go to say that the facts indicated controlled demolitions there. I go by facts not whatever I find on the internet that says what I want to hear.

    You, however, seem to want to peg me and pigeonhole me in accordance with your worldview…

  22. Anonymous said:

    I’ve noticed that every time these discussions turn to academic “isms” the whole point gets lost in conflicting definitions of terms that are already so generaized they have little meaning; and no relevance to the present context. Corporate propagandists have used these terms for so long to bamboozle the real people that they’re useless in trying to explain an economic system unique and new in world history. Call the current “system” whatever you want; I call it corpocracy: but limit the discussion to specific policy, practice, individuals, and corporations if you want The People to understand why things aren’t working out very well these days.

    Who cares what “school of economics” you call it when theft by inflation is rewarded, monopoly is encouraged, usury is morality, and treason by enabling gets you elected to positions of power. Whatever you call it; it’s not working, and the system has to change.

    The Constitution defines our Republic quite precisely; call it whatever “form” or “ism” you want but it’s a pretty clear statement - in writing – of what our founders envisioned. One of the things that’s not clear is the matter of corporate suffrage and personhood. Let’s fix it, jail the offenders, and start again with “a new sheriff in town”.

    It’s simple really. We just need to stop the academic bickering and conentrate on how future corporate charters should be written to hold evil-doers responsible for the fiscal misdeeds of its officers.  

    Corporate charters should be as carefully worded as the Constitution itself. The dangers from each are terrible.

  23. Anonymous said:

    I wholeheartedly agree, Alcuin. We’re dealing with a *system* that’s grown like a cancer in the cultural body of our own traditions and it’s infecting the world. With roots in the economic empiracism of  18th century Europe, private corporations prompted the American Colonies to encourage the type of global corporations that Britain so effectively used to grow their empire. The incorporation of private trading companies in the emerging USA was a HUGE success. Now  we (USA) are the headquarters for the biggest, baddest corporate colonists the world has ever known. Corporations no longer even need a Sovereign to justify piracy or overseas expansion. They ARE the sovereign powers now. They’re global. They have their own rules, institutions, and agenda. They meet among themselves at WTO, IMF, G20, and settle accounts at BIS. They compete among themselves. We (the peoples) don’t even matter to them beyond our utility as human resources and consumers.

    They have no agenda (but to grow) nor do they have a leader (they compete; non-violently) They function like a democracy  of fictitious persons while the OWS seeks a democracy of real persons.

    We can’t find the villains because there ARE no villains. It’s just a bad system gone rogue. Let’s devalue the existing fiat money, print some greenbacks with asset backing, and try another system.

    Some people do occasionally conspire, but they’re usually not very clever and the plot is soon uncovered. Fuck ‘em.

      Just like OWS, huh ? 

  24. Anonymous said:

    I never said that there are no conspiracies – there are.  I simply told David not to pay attention to those who engage in conspiracy thinking.  The enormous problem of conspiracy thinking is that it lets those who engage in such thinking off the hook – they don’t have to dig deeply to find out what is wrong. It is so much easier to blame our difficulties on a shadowy elite that allegedly controls the world.

  25. Anonymous said:

    I thought I was saying exactly the same thing, only my post went on and on and on………
    Maybe I should have said “Fuck conspiracy theorists and the horse they rode in on”  Better?

    Or maybe the more intellectual sounding expression would be “Yes. I agree. Blaming conspiritors is intellectually irresponsible! ”

    Let’s go get a beer. It’s getting late.

  26. Anonymous said:

    Well, e-mail does have its limitations!  And, yes, a beer right about now sounds real good! :-)

  27. Anonymous said:

    Exactly my thinking.  We are resisting and demanding a change to the CORRUPTION and the CRIMINAL SUBVERSION of the law – to lose sight of this and get caught up in political ideologies that have never yet actually been tested is a waste of everyone’s time. 

    ‘Socialist’ East Germany was just as corrupt and rotten as the US is now when it unraveled. Its unraveling was due mostly to people refusing to take it seriously anymore in the face of all that corruption. Russia’s inability to control all her vast nation states made room for the disintegration and the people’s courage bolstered by a comedy of the absurd led to the fall of the Berlin Wall.

    We do not have ‘Communism’ or ‘Socialism’ or ‘Capitalism’ in the U.S. We have totalitarianism, oppression, military imperialism, massive corruption and absolute disregard for the rule of law, contract law, common law, or any other form of real law. Instead we have practicing magistrate, executive, military and admiralty law all at work for the large corporate controllers and no law to protect the people.

    We have a dangerous fascist leaning Corporate State run by a highly segregated and protected elite class who cross borders between private and public affiliations with impunity.

    We have an Executive Branch of government which has taken dictatorial control of lawmaking, rulemaking, warmaking and all other powers it deems worthy of its attention with no checks and balances. Executive Orders, subversion of due process, destruction of the courts, and a bought and paid for Congress playing out the ‘debate’ of ‘democracy’ according to the terms and conditions laid out by their Masters.

    Then there are all the secret society connections Skull and Bones, the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg… There was a time these private ‘councils’ met in secrecy and their names were well hidden. In the modern Orwellian world of 2011 they put on the false front of legitimacy and publish their public statements – but just as all such ‘Societies’ they have highly secretive and protected agendas in the upper echelons which make them dangerous to those who cannot know their true agendas or allegiances.   All reasons such ‘Societies’  and their hidden allegiances were supposed to be outlawed to the American Statesman.

    The evidence of these private oligarch groups control of everything from banking to prisons to the war machinery and the local constabulary is proof enough of danger they pose to any potentially free people. Our ‘Free Republic’ has had many flaws, and is not, at present, free; however, it at least has a working structure that can provide a path to freedom should we choose that road. Unfortunately, the usurpers have also so influenced our language and education systems that we have all fallen for their propaganda machine in which we call out, as do they, for ‘global democracy’.  We do not want ‘global democracy’. We want freedom for the people of the earth. That is not the same thing.

  28. Anonymous said:

    Honestly, some of the left-wing blog and other media people become so self-obsessed that they no longer report about anything of substance, instead spending all their time talking about themselves, how clever they are, how important.  Name-dropping, asserting claims which cannot be substantiated.  It’s tedious and immature.  This is supposed to be a site about progressive issues, and the identity of the writers should be irrelevant.  You are not the subject of interest, the topics you cover are.  This entire article should be deleted.  Just, if anything, state:  Our group is independent of any political or governmental funding or association.  Leave it at that.  To write an entire article and say “It was all me, I’m so brilliant, I should get all the credit, is embarrassing.  The people who are out on the street doing the work should get the credit.  The fact that people all across the progessive spectrum have reported on the fact that most of the wealth has gone into the hands of the few, is not a concept that “belongs” to anyone.  This article is embarrasing and does a disservice to your publication.

  29. Anonymous said:

    That about sums it up. Thank you. Good post.

  30. I’m a lender on one of the social lending sites, and also a debtor of student loans, so I see this from both sides.  Indeed, there are always two sides to a debt contract, and the law should not favor one over the other. Yes, people can get into trouble with debt. As a lender, if you give your money away to people who won’t pay you back, you go broke. If as a borrower you get in over your head, you go broke.

    We have the concept of “Jubilee” already encoded into US law – bankruptcy.  To be in debt, a person signs a contract with stipulations about how the lender and debtor will perform.  There are two types of debt contracts – secured and unsecured. Your mortgage or your car loan are secured; the contract states that you will pay X amount of dollars over Y time period, but if you don’t make the payments, then the lender will come and take your house or car as fulfillment of the contract.  There’s no problem here – if you can’t make the house payment, the bank gets the house. The borrower will have ruined credit, but after a period of time, will be able to buy a house again. That the bank has millions of houses that are worth 50% of the money they lent is the bank’s problem, and because they made utterly horrible business decisions, they should go broke, thereby stiffing their shareholders and bondholders. We are in big trouble today because these people don’t want to suffer the consequences of their actions, but they expect you to suffer the consequences of yours.

    With credit card debt or student loan debt, both of which are unsecured (nothing to take back), the lender better be careful about who he or she is lending to, because if the borrower defaults, then the lender gets nothing.  This is what bankruptcy is for – if you’re over head in debt, you file for bankruptcy and the courts step in.  The borrower’s credit is ruined, but again, after some time, you can rebuild your credit and rejoin the game. The lender gets stiffed, but there have to be consequences for them as well – this is the essence of market discipline.

    You don’t need jubilee – you need to allow students to declare bankruptcy on student loans. You need business people to suffer the consequences of their actions. For unsecured lending (credit cards), we should require the banks to have one dollar of capital for every dollar they lend unsecured – not true today. Reinstate Glass-Stegall. Make banking a boring utility function again. Again, we are in trouble because the elites have gamed the system so that they do not suffer the consequences of their actions – they have bought off politicians so that the taxpayers take the hit when their frauds blow up. You can’t fix that by giving people free cars and houses, you fix it by sending criminals to jail.

  31. Julia vladikova said:

    A sound analysis.

  32. Anonymous said:

    I’ve been involved in political activsm since around 1970.  It is all too common to see movements co-opted: often by groups with interests very disimiliar to the masses that compose the movement.  The tea party was coopted by Koch and ALEX and now the Wall Street Movement is similarly being coopted by Soros, Multinational Unions etc.  Sorry but that is the reality and it is happening to the wall street protesters as I speak.  Eternal Vigilance.
     
     

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  36. Rod Farmer said:

    Those who have posted here are truthful and generous in nature.  I find no self-obsession and I am thankful for their imput.  If you delete, from your world, those things that you find tiresome, you will soon find yourself alone.  Negativity is counter-productive. 

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    But don’t you think that we should stay on point?  I want to fight corruption.

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  45. Anonymous said:

    There have been numerous forms of socialism proposed 100-200 years ago.  The republican state was arguably tilted towards socialist ideals, breaking the monopoly of monarchy and feudalism.

    Larry Gambone described Socialism before it had anything to do with “Big Government”.

    Various political theorists described forms of Anarchism, in which there is no govt running the economy.  Of course there would be no corporations either, since corporations are *special* forms of business sanctioned and defined by the State in Law.  (Individuals could form joint-stock corporations, but no govt would grant them “personhood” or any inherent “rights” to protect them from being sued or blocked by communities.

    It’s true that in our current parlance, with govt providing SO MANY forms of welfare-for-the-rich (most of them ordinary people don’t know about, obscure or too complicated, like ways that govt subsidizes globalization of industry and finance), so most people think in terms of “give back”, and that sounds like Nanny State redistribution, New New Deal and such.

    Well in FDR’s govt, it was not only “professors” but the business and banking executives and lobbyists that helped write the New Deal.  Also some small business lobbied for protections from larger capitalists that would use deep pockets and credit to drive out competition. 

    On the other hand, it was decades prior to FDR that the Progressive Era began under McKinley and TR and Taft etc, the marriage of industry and govt to block “ruinous competition” from harming capital with cheaper prices and better methods, and to prevent STRONG state-level and local political agitation from the grassroots from successfully blocking or even killing corporations which harmed the public good.

    Capitalism has NEVER had much in common with “free markets” except in myth.

    THE IRON FIST BEHIND THE INVISIBLE HAND
    Corporate Capitalism As a State-Guaranteed System of Privilege
    Mutualist.Org: Free Market Anti-Capitalism
    http://www.mutualist.org/id4.html

    A “lighter” version of the same ideas which is not aimed at anarchist mutual aid sans govt might be Dean Baker who argues for stripping the wealthy of their PRE-TAX privileges rather than focusing on “Bush tax cuts”, since any liberal aims to repeal “Bush tax cuts” are designed to cut LOW into the upper middle class (not the top 1% or 0.5%) where they can pick up enough negativity to allow Obama to “fail” i.e. succeed in keeping the banksters tax free.

    That would be Dean Baker, the End of Loser Liberalism.  How to stop the super-wealthy from raping us up front with patent monopolies and other government subsidies.

  46. Anonymous said:

    Hard to believe that this site about the 99.9% vs the 0.1% capitalist oligarchs and who played a role in LAUNCHING #OWS protests would attract someone who would write:

    “You’re right about at least one thing, however. Indeed, “the protesters
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    Yeah, like I’m sooo sure David Degraw is an ignorant child. How ignorant does someone have to be to actually write that drivel on top of Degraw’s detailed analyses?

    Getting back to Kevin Carson (so you could review the source if you want a clearer picture), though he’s anti-govt, and he’s critiqued neoliberal faux “free market” capitalism and globalization as govt-subsidized projects, he at least has the common sense to say he’d PREFER a maternalistic social welfare state to the kind of starvation mode and de-industrialization (and pitting workers against each other globally) that the financial oligarchs prefer with their neo-liberal “tough love” and “rule of the rich”.

    I mean we still have Labor Laws on the books, what hasn’t been undone or watered down or reversed, but it used to be that corporations were held to obey Labor Laws too, not violate them but hold the union workers to the Law and have them thrown them in prison for improper organizing.  This is how we DEVELOPED a middle class.

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